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Default Sapphire X1650 Pro small problem =( - 05-25-2010, 10:56 PM

Sooooorrrryyy if this kind of thread dont belong here, but i need help =(


I have a small problem, i recently buy a new Ati x1650 Pro (Agp) 256/128, for my seccond pc

When i plug into the mobo, and connect the molex plug into the video card, and plug the monito into the video card, and hit the "Power" botton, monitor turns on, system start BUT, the system dont boot, is just display the video card name in the monitor And say "Sapphire X1650 Pro 256/128" and nothing more

Also, the boot sequence , dont start , just power the pc and only see the VC name, the fan spin, the strange is , at the first 5 secconds of hit power, the fan runs at high speed, and then the rpm come donw a loot and the fan spin slow (Not the same speed when i hit power)

So, is maybe problem of the video card?, Or the Psu ?, the psu is 400W generic brand, it might be the psu that dont have the "enough" power to supply the video car, Ati say for a full system load with the video card only needs 350W...

Another thing, when i un-plug the molex plug from the VC , the video card start but insted of show me the name of the video card (Like i say before), show artifact and nothing more.


Anyone have any suggestion or tip?

The "new" pc is a P4 3.6 HT Socket 478
2gig ram
180gb hdd
400w psu
Cd-CDR/w 52x
Ati Sapphire X1650 Pro ( Agp )
Windows Xp sp2

Buying a new psu of 550W whould fix the problem?


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Default 05-25-2010, 11:26 PM

sounds like you disconnected your hard disk drive should also try reseting all physical connections to your card and mother board. also if you motherboard does diagnostic lights look for them and find what they mean at the manufactors site. sounds like your motherboard went frizts to me but could just be a lose connection somewhere. if the magic smoke didn't come out then it should still be working.
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Default 05-25-2010, 11:45 PM

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sounds like you disconnected your hard disk drive should also try reseting all physical connections to your card and mother board. also if you motherboard does diagnostic lights look for them and find what they mean at the manufactors site. sounds like your motherboard went frizts to me but could just be a lose connection somewhere. if the magic smoke didn't come out then it should still be working.
Nope, i didnt disconect my hdd, i just change the video card from the radeon 9550 to the sapphire x1650 pro, that the only hardware change in the pc


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Default 05-26-2010, 01:03 AM

Shouldn't be the PSU. As far as I can tell, 400w is way more than you need to power 2 2600xt's, much less a single x1650. However, having said that, there is quite a difference in performance between generic psu's, for all I know, it's stable out put might only be 150w, though thats a little far fetched I reckon. Have you tried plugging the old vga back in to see if it still works? It might be the vga card in itself that's the problem. Have you tried updating the MB bios? It might only support a slower/older version of AGP and that could be the reason. It could be the PSU, though just do a few simple checks to confirm it before you go wasting money on something that might not be the problem.


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Default 05-26-2010, 01:12 AM

Do you have the right drivers?

You can always send an e-mail to ATI corp., I think this would be the best thing to do.

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Default 05-26-2010, 01:24 AM

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Shouldn't be the PSU. As far as I can tell, 400w is way more than you need to power 2 2600xt's, much less a single x1650. However, having said that, there is quite a difference in performance between generic psu's, for all I know, it's stable out put might only be 150w, though thats a little far fetched I reckon. Have you tried plugging the old vga back in to see if it still works? It might be the vga card in itself that's the problem. Have you tried updating the MB bios? It might only support a slower/older version of AGP and that could be the reason. It could be the PSU, though just do a few simple checks to confirm it before you go wasting money on something that might not be the problem.
I`be tryed the older card (Currently using it), and the system work just fine

This happens just when i try to use the new one.

Gona test updating the bios,But the mobo is a asrock p4vm800, and support AGP 4x/8x, also support fast-write.

@edit, the bios us up to date 1.60v

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Is not driver problems, i cant boot the pc with the new video card, meh, the system even boot now with the video card

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Bios up to date
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Agp configuration in bios
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Default 05-26-2010, 04:20 AM

If the old graphics card still works but the new does not, theres two possible causes.

1. Your generic psu doesn't have the get up go that it claims to have.(Generic pc hardware not living up to spec? Thats unpossible! /ralphwiggim voice)

2. The new graphics card is faulty. Even the best manufacturers let some duds slip through once in a while.

My suggestion is before you go to the cost of buying a new psu, try plugging the x1650 pro into a different computer, if it still doesn't work in a different machine than you know you have a bad card. If it works in a different machine, than you know its time to chuck that generic psu and get something more reliable.


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It might be your motherboard.
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Default 05-26-2010, 06:52 AM

It's not the psu. I can tell you now that even a 300w generic will run it. It maybe a problem with the vga's bios in itself. If that's the case, then there's nothing you can really do about it. I suspect that this vga is second hand considering it's age. If possible test it on another system (though since it's AGP that might be difficult). Don't waste money on a new PSU.

Personally, I don't see the point in upgrading your vga, even if it gives a major performance boost over the 9550, that doesn't mean much as it won't play most modern games at even moderate setting anyways. My suggestion, save the money and just build a whole new system.


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Default 05-26-2010, 12:31 PM

Your PSU is fine same with the graphics card, the thing is that the graphics card is not compatible with your motherboard that's why it hangs on boot up... try updating your bios that's the only way to fix the problem, also what chipset on motherboard do you have?? is it VIA, Intel, SIS? If still doesn't work, return your GPU immediately .

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