[Conduit]

Originally Posted by Zakness

I think Flit turned out to be an asshole. Now, he wants to get his son involved by attacking the Vaden and killing them. He even knew they were going to attack and let them do it without helping. The thing is, the Federation that that asshole is helping out, are the real villains here. You gonna send people away and when they try to comeback to their home, you throw them out and try to kill them. Who's the real villain?

Also, if they're 17 years old, why do they look like they're 12?

I can't agree with this, you don't get to claim to be the good guys while murdering civilians. Like this last episode, where did the Vagan suits go, to a military base? No, they went straight to the residential district and started killing people. I don't know what their plan is, but one thing is certain, good guys they are not.

[Zakness]

Originally Posted by Conduit

I can't agree with this, you don't get to claim to be the good guys while murdering civilians. Like this last episode, where did the Vagan suits go, to a military base? No, they went straight to the residential district and started killing people. I don't know what their plan is, but one thing is certain, good guys they are not.

They went after those hypocrites that were harboring that asshole and his family. After all they went after the Gundam, and the Gundam is with the family of the asshole, who I refuse to name him b/c he's an asshole. Don't forget, The Federation were the ones that started killing all of them without remorse and threw them into space without a second thought. Everyone that exists now are apart of The Federation and supports them, so they can die with them. You can blame The Federation for hiding the truth from the masses, if you want b/c that's what's really going on but now they know the truth of The Vagan and turn a blind eye to it, like that asshole who heard the truth but didn't care b/c he liked a girl, or he believes he liked her, and she ended up dead. Now, he has a family but more like a replacement family b/c if cared at all, he would've stayed behind to help them instead of going out into space and watching his home getting attacked, while feeling like he just accomplished turning his son into another him.

[Conduit]

Regardless of the excuses, you don't kill civilians that can't even fight back, period. You're going to be pretty mad if I'm right and it turns out the Vagan leadership are the AGE equivelent of the Zabi family.

[Zakness]

Originally Posted by Conduit

Regardless of the excuses, you don't kill civilians that can't even fight back, period. You're going to be pretty mad if I'm right and it turns out the Vagan leadership are the AGE equivelent of the Zabi family.

I'm not disagreeing with you about that. I agree with you 100% about the killing of civilians but who are the ones that started it? The Federation did by attacking and killing them for no reason. All they wanted to do is come back home and they were killed, is what I'm saying. If you look at it from the starting point, The Federation are wrong and they started this whole mess, not the Vagan.

[ANBU!]

#16

Just cuz the Federation "started it" doesn't justify anything so it's a moot point. The Vagan have the technology and means to live peacefully somewhere else but they choose to come back and start killing people. Two wrongs don't make a right.

So i guess this makes Flit basically the founder of all Gundam and that Gundam was the original Gundam? Where does this fit into the Gundam timeline? Is this the prequel of all prequels or is it one of those, "it was buried 10000 years and someone discovered it and now it's here" kinda things?

[Phoenix44]

I dont like the fact that Flit is 40 now.....also how was he 15 when they destroyed the Ambat? He looked 8. I feel like I started an entirely new show last episode. Also, Vagan are the bad guys for sure in this. But if the Vagan were led by Milliardo Peacecraft, I might change my mind.

[Xuande]

Originally Posted by ANBU!

#16

Just cuz the Federation "started it" doesn't justify anything so it's a moot point. The Vagan have the technology and means to live peacefully somewhere else but they choose to come back and start killing people. Two wrongs don't make a right.

So i guess this makes Flit basically the founder of all Gundam and that Gundam was the original Gundam? Where does this fit into the Gundam timeline? Is this the prequel of all prequels or is it one of those, "it was buried 10000 years and someone discovered it and now it's here" kinda things?

Aside from the Universal Century timeline every other Gundam series takes place in a completely separate universe from each other. The federation is at fault for starting the whole situation though. It isn't the first time a Gundam series has portrayed a federation as incompetent or corrupt and in this series the federation seems to be both. I consider both sides to be in the wrong though.

[Conduit]

Every time I see the Diva I can't help but think that at some point in the show they're going to pull a Macross and the Diva is going to transform into a giant Gundam.

[Xuande]

lol I could kind of see that. The AGE-2 reminds me a lot of the Zeta Gundam though except not as cool. Does anyone know if there is supposed to be another time skip or if this is supposed to be 50 episodes like most Gundam series? I think I remember reading somewhere that it was supposed to cover 3 generations but I don't remember where I heard that.

[ComradeHX]

Not this **** again.

Put in the REAL one please.