[Des]

Now that SOPA and PIPA has been dropped, people living in countries that is a part of EU should know about the ACTA bill.
There will be a vote on it that apparently the people can vote on.
Just watch this vid:

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It`s as bad as the SOPA bill.

"European Parliament Study Confirms ACTA Must Be Rejected
Paris, July 20th, 2011 - The EU Parliament just published a study assessing ACTA in view of its upcoming ratification vote. Most of the report includes the typical copyright extremism nonsense, especially when it comes to the digital environment. However, this scholarly study cannot but recognize that ACTA contains serious legal flaws and brings nothing to EU citizens."
- internetuse925123

[NotsoFunnyClown]

The ACTA, and other things like it will most probably be passed without much resistance.
We've seen before how EU policiticans go about doing things. One example is the Lisbon treaty, earlier called the "Nice Treaty".

They tried it out once. Unfortunatley for them it didnt go through. Even so, they tried a second time. This time without letting the people vote. This time, they instead forced the politicians to vote Yes, for their people.

And of course our weak minded politicians agreed to this. All countries in the EU said "Yes", except for Ireland, who still believed in freedom of choise. Ireland went against EU directives, and let its people vote. The result thanks to this, was that the Lisbon Treaty was denied in all of the EU. This made the people behind the Treaty quite angry.

They claimed that the people of Ireland had no idea what they were voting No to, and demanded a referendum. And of course, they were right. The irish people really DIDNT know what they were voting NO to. Because no one really told them or informed them in any way about what this Treaty meant.

They started a shorter campaign, and gave out small bits of "good" information about the treaty (which was near cryptic due to the treaty only consisting of "amandments" that when read, only referred to other pages that as far as I know were not even in the giant bunch of amendments they recieved. In other words it was near impossible to read the treaty) that they hoped would make people somewhat satisfied enough to pass the Treaty in a second voting. This time it passed.

But barely. Dont know what kind of weak willed people changed their mind because of that pathetic so called campaign. But some did, and it was enough.
This is how politicians go about doing things today. Democracy could not mean less to them, since they see us as a bunch of stupid sheep, that are to be lead so that we don't harm ourselves.

(Fun facts. SOPA, PIPA and ACTA means "Trash/Sweep, Squeal/Whimper and Watchout/Beware" in Swedish.)

[alcaray]

Notso, you make the EU sound like the Soviet Union. Is it really so bad?

[Khalim]

In the US tricky laws like SOPA and PIPA raise a fuss, because the people are bitchy about their rights. In many countries of the EU they just pass the laws they want. The political corruption is the same, what's different is how people respond to it.

[Bakachi]

Acta > WIP
SOPA> Completely withdrawn for now
PIPA > Postponed, WIP

Either they all get withdrawn, or shitstorm will happen (geek protests all over the world)

[nothng2do]

seriously what's wrong with politicians these days...stop hanging around
internet.....go after some terrorists or something.....

[ac!dburn]

If they want to be "tough on crime", why not go after
the people that crashed the world economy? They ruined people's lives.
Fleecing someone out of their house and causing worldwide economic malaise is a whole different level of bad than right-clicking and downloading flicks.

[Serduszko]

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It's says that our president just signed a paper in which they can conduct martial law in case of internet attack...bullshit. Also, in addition to this they said that those attacks at polish websites by anonim. were just site errors not attacks. Lastly, youtube, instead of highlighting acta videos try to cover it with shitty videos...meh.

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ACTA would establish a new international legal framework that countries can join on a voluntary basis and would create its own governing body outside existing international institutions such as the World Trade Organization (WTO), the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) or the United Nations.

Nate Anderson with Ars Technica pointed out that ACTA encourages service providers to collect and provide information about suspected infringers by giving them "safe harbor from certain legal threats". Similarly, it provides for criminalization of copyright infringement on a commercial scale, granting law enforcement the powers to perform criminal investigation, arrests and pursue criminal citations or prosecution of suspects who may have infringed on copyright on a commercial scale. It also allows criminal investigations and invasive searches to be performed against individuals for whom there is no probable cause, and in that regard weakens the presumption of innocence and allows what would in the past have been considered unlawful searches.

[Serduszko]

I head that at 26.01 in Tokio, Japan gover. will also sign this sh.it.

My brief thoughts. Rather than ban (which is the simplest) producers and the state could diversify its current product range, increase the scope of its availability and adjust prices within reason that people could afford them. The government instead of the restrictions should give some relief, facilities for vendors. Well, but no-martial law because there is no other option, who needs dialogue anyway.

[Des]

Originally Posted by alcaray

Notso, you make the EU sound like the Soviet Union. Is it really so bad?

The bill lets your internet provider spy on everything you do on the web, they can block sites from you if they think there is something bad on the site, even the smallest thing.
Your freedom and privacy would be gone.
The cops could come to your house for just suspecting you of pirating, even if you actually don`t pirate anything.

The norwegian Computer Protection service is against it being enforced in Norway, and the same does IKT and the Consumer Council.
When these 3 goes against it, it normally means it`s a no go here.
But becaus of this agreement Norway has with some EU countries, the bill might be forced on us, and the politicians would lose their balls and be fine with it.