[TheChaos0]

I think writing is my body's way of combating the stress. Written as I was waiting for my pasta to cook.

Truth and Lie

I have one eye that sees the truth,
Another sees the lie.
Which one is which?
Which one is what?
I pounder up and high.

They always tell us 'bout "right" and "wrong",
Of black and white and where we should belong.
But what about shades of grey, where do they fit in this?
To one man's truth, another is a lie indeed.
And so they squander which is which, until they see it fit.

And when we come the circle full,
I'll paint this canvas red and blue
And smudge the colours till they sing as one.
And then the world will wonder what to do,
Which one's a black or white in endless sea of purple?

[karinblood]

Truth is a three edged sword. There is our side, there is their side and in the end there is the real truth.

[TheChaos0]

Originally Posted by karinblood

Truth is a three edged sword. There is our side, there is their side and in the end there is the real truth.

In the real world there is no truth,
Truth only exists in the world of dreams,
And those who search, only find echoes,
Echoes that they brand as the truth.

[Velorien]

It is a tall order indeed to see the truth. But how about recognising lies?

If there is a thought saying "there is a unicorn in front of me", and I see no unicorn, then that thought is a lie, no matter how much philosophical argument for the unicorn's presence there may be.

Now riddle me this. If there is a thought saying "I exist", and I see no "I" in my experience of the world, is that thought not also a lie?

Take a look. Can you see an "I" in yours?

[alcaray]

'Beauty is truth, truth beauty,—that is all
Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.'

[alenesi]

go watch nichijou epsd 11 and u will know wat i'm talking about

[alcaray]

Originally Posted by alenesi

go watch nichijou epsd 10 and u will know wat i'm talking about

When you say what?

[Velorien]

Originally Posted by alcaray

'Beauty is truth, truth beauty,—that is all
Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.'

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If truth is beauty, perhaps you and I are living in different worlds.

[TheChaos0]

Originally Posted by Velorien

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If truth is beauty, perhaps you and I are living in different worlds.

Sometimes a truth hurts the world more than a lie (ignorance is bliss they say), the more people know, the more they fear it, paranoia grows. And this is the same paranoia that governments use to restrict our freedom.

Yet on the other hand lie's no better. Disinformation, misdirection, falsification. These things give us false sense of security (although such placebo feelings can be thought as good) but worse of all may manipulate us to do things we don't want to (knowing the truth), support things we don't need to, hate those we shouldn't.

It is a tricky question which is better, when black and white do not apply.

[Velorien]

Originally Posted by TheChaos0

Sometimes a truth hurts the world more than a lie (ignorance is bliss they say), the more people know, the more they fear it, paranoia grows. And this is the same paranoia that governments use to restrict our freedom.

Yet on the other hand lie's no better. Disinformation, misdirection, falsification. These things give us false sense of security (although such placebo feelings can be thought as good) but worse of all may manipulate us to do things we don't want to (knowing the truth), support things we don't need to, hate those we shouldn't.

It is a tricky question which is better, when black and white do not apply.

A very interesting argument.

I would say that in the former case, paranoia comes not from knowing the truth, but from the feeling that you only know part of the truth. In other words, what one fears is uncertainty, the unknown - "what if there are equally bad or worse things going on that I don't know about?" We then turn to governments to protect us because they are supposed to know more than us, and thus we surrender our freedoms.

The fact that very little can be known for certain, and that we will always be largely ignorant, is another truth, and one it can be very hard to face. But the ability to face and accept it brings freedom from such paranoia.