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Default Everything Dragonball related - 03-24-2010, 08:06 PM

Majuub > Ultimate Gohan

There have been many discussions about this in the past and nearly everyone believes Ultimate Gohan to be far superior to Majuub. I am creating this however, to prove that Majuub is infact stronger so here we go.
First, let’s delve into Majuub.
He is made up of two different entities, Kid Buu reincarnated (Uub) and Majin Buu after he dispelled the evil from his body (Good Buu). We’ll break that down as well.
The first thing I`ll say is that Uub is a reincarnation. Do you recall when Piccolo was 3 and fought Goku in the World Tournament? There is no doubt that Piccolo is far stronger than King Piccolo even at that point. You could make a fair argument that he was so simply because he was reincarnated because at this point he had not undergone any special training. Unlike Piccolo, Kid Buu was reincarnated as a human rather than a Majin. It is unknown whether Majin can actually become stronger by training but humans definitely can. When we first see Uub he is a weakling. This can be explained due to the fact that Piccolo was born with the sole purpose to defeat Goku, while Uub`s powers show up automatically without him even trying, even ki. Ten years later, when he’s fighting Goku in Kami’s Lookout, their fight does not destroy the place but merely breaks it in several places. Many people use this to say that even after ten years Uub is still inferior to Kid Buu. I have a few things to say about that. First off, is it ever said that this is an all out fight? Goku was in his base form but I didn`t see Uub powering up either. Also, the Buu that destroyed the lookout was insane, impatient and out of control. Goku and Uub`s fight was much more focused and in control. Anyways, the last thing I`ll say about Uub is that if he was not as strong as Kid Buu in GT then he definitely has the potential to be.
Good Buu was originally Majin Buu before he dispelled the evil from his body. Majin Buu was on par with SSJ3 Goku. He split the same way The Nameless Namek did, by expelling the evil and creating a new entity. Even after all the events to come until he fuses with Uub he stays at the same power level because I have no doubt that all he did was stuff his face and play around and his powers did not decrease because even though he was in Bibidi`s Ball for so long, he was fine when he came out. I remember reading a very convincing argument that Good Buu is around an FPSSJ2, like around Majin Vegeta`s level and Kid Buu is roughly equal to an SSJ3. I can`t seem to remember the details or find the post but you could probably do it if you wanted to, there was like five pages in the thread.
Now to discuss the fusion they underwent to become Majuub. There are five types of known fusion; Fusion Dance, Potara Earings, Namekian Fusion, Absorption and whatever it was Abo and Kado did. The strongest is Potara because it does not matter what level the individuals are, the powers are multiplied and it lasts forever, represented by Elder Kai and Vegerot. Next is the Fusion Dance because the powers are multiplied but they have to be the same and it only lasts for half an hour. The Namekian is probably before the Dance but less than Potara although not a lot is known about it Nail said that if Piccolo had fused with Kami then he could beat Frieza. I didn`t want to drag power levels into this but oh well. Frieza was over 1 mil. And I remember seeing a page in the manga of all the power levels of the main characters in the Namek/Frieza Sagas and it said Piccolo was 3500. It is probably multiplication because if Kami was even 500 Piccolo >>>> Frieza. No one cares about Abo and Kado. Absorption is the weakest because it adds power rather than multiplies it.
Wow, got really off topic there…
Anyways, the fusion that created Majuub was almost identical to the fusion Piccolo used to fuse with Nail and Kami. Aside from the fact that Uub doesn`t look much different after the fusion compared to other fusions, the greatest similarities are the multiple consciousnesses seen after Piccolo fuses with Nail and while Majuub is dressed up as Papaya Man.
The last thing I`ll say about Majuub is that when he was inside Golden Oozaru Baby Vegeta, he managed to hold him off for quite a while, to let Goku power up. Golden Oozaru Baby Vegeta came directly after Super Baby Vegeta 2. He was formed when Baby decided to stick with Vegeta, went SSJ2 and absorbed energy from most of the inhabitants of Earth. I remember near the beginning of Z someone said that going Oozaru multiplies your power tenfold. Majuub was able to hold off a monster like that for a considerable while.
I`m not going to talk about Gohan as much because you all know him and things don`t need to be clarified as much as they do in GT. One thing you may not remember though is when Ultimate Gohan was fighting Buutenks there was a clip of Elder Kai watching his crystal ball and saying to Kibito Kai that Gohan could easily be stronger than Goku but he wasn`t because Goku was simply better at basic fighting. That means that Ultimate Gohan was at the time about equal to SSJ3 Goku but with some training could easily be at the level of like a FPSSJ3 so that`s what I classify him as.
So let`s finally see how this turns out. Majuub is clearly not as strong as an SSJ4 but is strong enough to temporarily subdue GOBVegeta just like Goku was before everyone gave him their energy. So I`d think it`s fair to say Majuub has maybe a 5% of beating an SSJ4. Now ask yourself this, does an FPSSJ come anywhere close to an SSJ2? No, not in the slightest. I`m sure I could add many more facts and many of you will disagree but I will end this the way it started.

Majuub > Ultimate Gohan
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well, i mainly wrote it because I saw other posts and I had to get it out of my head and in writing so now here it is.


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