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Default Remake series - 10-30-2011, 09:04 PM

What remake series do you know??? I'm conducting some research about it: ]

Hellsing ultimate
Hunter x hunter
DB kai
FMA B
Evangelion
GeGeGe no kitaro

Remakes vs prequels or sequels/ movies, ovas.
It is widely known that remakes aren't so popular so I don't know why. I find it better.
For instance Soul eater, D gray man, X and many others should be redone and finished. Not to mention older anime from 80-90s...
GeGeGe no kitaro was redone couple of times even in 2007. I enjoyed it much.

Mb it is all about the money...only this very very profitable series are redone huh.


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Default 10-30-2011, 11:57 PM

I didn't know Evangelion had a remake!?

FMA: Brother Hood, was pretty good and followed the manga more closely didn't it?

Hunter x Hunter, is compressed more than the original make, episode 4 was episode 7 or 8 originally. (Though the graphics are inconsiderably* better.)[* To show there is no need to consider, Think along the lines of PWN not OWN.]

DB(?z?) Kai, It is also compressed did Goku even fall off of Snakes Way in the remake? I know he did not stop at Princess Snake's place (the midway point).

GeGeGe, I have never heard of, is it any good?

Hellsing Ultimate, there was a prior one? Not that I have seen either... -.-;

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Cutie (or Cutey) Honey, I'm not sure which is the author's spelling since I've seen it both ways. I know that it aired in the 70s and then a release called New Cutey Honey was released sometime later, I'm not sure if it was a remake, but it does seem to start the story from the beginning.

Cutie Japanese spelling?
Cutey English dubber's spelling. -.-
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There are several that I would like to see, but remakes have to be done at least a higher level graphical, and preferably the story too, as the original or they really would be a fail.

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If you bring America into this, The Ironman and Captain America movies follow the cartoon (and I suppose the comic?) moderately close, though I doubt these count.
Sorry. ^_^;

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Default 10-31-2011, 02:18 AM

Not really sure if this is what you're asking, but two very popular ones come to my mind:

Kanon First release 2002, Second release 2006

Melancholy of haruhi suzumiya -- Guess you could consider it a "remake" more like a second release

Another one that comes to mind, someone may need to verify this for me, but didn't Kujibiki Unbalance also get "remade?"
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Default 10-31-2011, 03:45 AM

Not sure about Hellsing and HunterxHunter Never saw the original run of either series.

DBZKai though as I understand is simply a remastered version in HD with some of the filler removed.

The Evangelion Rebuild are, again, remasters of the original episodes. Remasters dont usually have as much work done on them as a full on remake, just cleaning up audio and video and getting upgrades in resolution and sometimes new scenes. (never heard of this being done for Haruihi though)

GeGeGe No Kitaro was remade several times, heck I think the first time it ran it was in black and white.

FMA: B follows the comic more closely so not so much a remake as it is a re-imagining, or perhaps the anime itself was the re-imagining. The previous FMA was similar to Soul Eater in that rather than use lots of filler to try and slow down production to keep pace with the manga, they both simply did their own story.

Kujibiki Unbalance... hmm it's hard to say if it's a remake since there was technically no actual first series unless you count the bits that appeared in another anime with a different tone and character designs.

I want to say Cashern Sins was a straight up remake but again, never having seen the original series I dont know how much of it is remake and how much is considered sequel.

The other more obvious remakes I'd say would be:
Gotchaman (Updated OVAs)
Hurricane Polymar (updated OVA)
Bubblegum Crisis tokyo 2040 (attempt to update the story and artstyle)
Hakaider/Kikaider (updated OVAs)
Yatterman (new live action movie and anime like GeGeGe)
Cutey Honey (had multiple series versions, OVAs and movies)
Giant Robo (Updated OVAs)
GetterRobo (Updated OVAs)
Gigantor (several new series over time)
AstroBoy (updated series a couple times)
Birdy The Mighty (remade and extended beyond the original story)
OH! and how can I forget Doraemon!

I'm not sure I'd say all remakes are unpopular, just the ones that seem to come too early or only to cash in on a trend of modernizing old shows, sometimes the update is a welcome addition to the franchise that recharges it's popularity and other times it's just a cash grab.

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Default 10-31-2011, 06:54 AM

The newer movies in the Evangelion franchise are in fact a remake and are known as Rebuild of Evangelion. The first movie pretty much follows the first part of the original series, but the second greatly diverges.

Haruhi never had a 'remake' there was a second season, if that is what you were thinking of?

I haven't watched Kujibiki Unbalance yet, but my understanding was that it's a spinoff of the show that the characters of Genshiken watched. Not technically a remake.

I've also yet to watch Casshern Sins, but from what I remember reading about it, it's something of a remake with a couple twists or something.

If you do feel like bringing American animation into this, alot of comic book super heroes received animated television series that were then remade years after the original run. Batman and Spiderman are two I am certain of, and I believe Superman had more than one series as well. Oh! And I almost forgot X-men.

All in all profitability and marketability are what decide if a production company tries to give a project another go. If they didn't succeed a lot with the first run, they are immensely less likely to try again. And as PN04 said, sometimes it's just a cashgrab where they barely try and just hope to make money off of the series title.

I myself usually like updated versions of old shows. However, I do fall in the category of person that feels every movie/show version of a book is usually inferior to said book...


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Default 10-31-2011, 07:24 AM

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The newer movies in the Evangelion franchise are in fact a remake and are known as Rebuild of Evangelion. The first movie pretty much follows the first part of the original series, but the second greatly diverges.

@Seraphel......
Rebuild of Evangelion really? Have you even seen the original?
There may be similarities between the current movies and the original. However most of the material is new. There is no way Rebuild could be considered a complete remake.


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Default 10-31-2011, 10:50 AM

Yes, I have seen the original series. That part in my post about Evangelion was mostly because Nominis had said they didn't know there was a remake and PN04 replied only about remastering. A remake isn't an exact copy with updated visuals/acting/music. Story changes are also prevalent in remakes.
Also, if you look again at what I wrote, I've noted that the first is similar to the original and then it diverges during the second. Where you are getting me thinking they are exactly the same, I have no clue.

Anyways. I failed to weigh in on FMA and Hellsing last post, so I'll do that now.

The first FMA series by Bones was started before the story had gotten far enough along, so they basically developed an alternate story for nearly half of it. I rather enjoyed it, even knowing it was going to be an anime only ending.
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FMA:B came along to follow the manga much closer and was also wonderfully awesome, in my opinion. Both are worth watching.
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Hellsing Ultimate is on my list to watch, but I haven't gotten to it yet. I do know that it doesn't simply pick up from where the Hellsing TV series ended. It's an OVA series and I believe it's supposed to follow the manga, like a number of second renditions do.

As I was typing I've been reminded of another series that had something of a remake:
Mahou Sensei Negima! went to an anime only ending and then a while later came out Negima!?.


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Default 10-31-2011, 11:01 AM

My question is about what series has got remake. It can be brand new remake or with some elements of old and new. Casshern sins has got remake, even if the plot is different it is still Cashern sins:> Evangelion- same situation.
I don't care about season 2 though.
Also why remakes are less popular?


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Default 10-31-2011, 02:16 PM

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Haruhi never had a 'remake' there was a second season, if that is what you were thinking of?
There was never an actual second season, they just rerun the whole series in chronological order with new "season 2" episodes.

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Hellsing Ultimate is on my list to watch, but I haven't gotten to it yet. I do know that it doesn't simply pick up from where the Hellsing TV series ended. It's an OVA series and I believe it's supposed to follow the manga, like a number of second renditions do.
I thought original Hellsing was good but Ultimate is on completely another level of awesomeness.

Oh don't forget Ah! My Goddess! TV series is a remake of the shorter OVA series.


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Default 10-31-2011, 09:42 PM

Hmm, I feel like I may have misspoke about Eva Rebuild, because now even I'm confused about what I said.

Part of the problem I guess is that there are so many iterations.
-Original series (either watched on fansub or original DVD release)
-Death and Rebirth Movies (re-telling of the series with some new animation and ending)
-Genesis: Reborn Director's Cut (re-edited version with "never before seen" scenes of the original series final 3 episodes proceeding the release of...)
-Platinum collection (the actual remaster of the original series DVDs apparently including "Reborn")
-New Eva movies (You are [not] alone & You can [not] advance, complete re-makes with new animation and even a new character.)


Theories on why some remakes might not be as popular: I've had friends express dislike of newer animation styles and techniques. Some hate seeing mechs that are obvious CG as opposed to being fully animated, other's have said they dislike stylistic shading or even the new art style in some remakes, preferring the original (sometimes very well known) artist's vision to what they might see as a more generic style by a character designer they dont know as well. Of course it can just as easy as saying the writing of a newer version just isn't as good.

Also: OH! Okay, now I get the deal about Haruhi. I remember now that the "second season" as many call it was several episodes placed into the running order of the re-airing of original series which had gotten a remastering to HD resolution. The original "out of sequence" version was only released on DVD, with the success of Blu-ray and the switch to DTV Highdef coming after the first run was complete.

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