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Default Direction the Anime Industry is Going - 07-13-2011, 11:46 AM

It seems there are a number of loli related anime showing this season, moreso that in prior seasons, and I was wondering if it's due to the increased censoring on network television these days. Afterall, if an anime character has no breasts to begin with then there obviously isn't any need to censor them out. Ironically, the network's policy of censoring has just increased the number of adolescent girls showing up in anime which isn't an improvement by any means.

On another note, I would prefer to see more anime movies in the future instead of anime series that cut off abruptly after the first season. Hollywood is riddled with movies based on marvel comics that end up being fairly good movies, and I don't see why networks can't do the same with manga and anime. If the movie turns out to be a hit, the networks can always release subsequent movies to continue the storyline or follow up on new manga releases. The only problem I foresee with this approach is the need for talented story-writes to pace the plot and create a decent ending for the movie. Either the networks will have to hire the writers (yeah right), or manga artists will have to shift their focus towards a more focused style of drawing much like they would a book. This would create more one shot or short 20-30 chapter manga and fewer manga that just stretch on forever, month to month.
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Default 07-13-2011, 12:31 PM

Why would you want to see real movies of animes?
Have you ever tried watching stuff like Dragonball Revolution?

If they start doing this to any other anime iŽll /wrist
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Default 07-13-2011, 01:20 PM

If you're talking about the Anime Industry, then like any industry, it is all about the economics.

It is crucial for you to understand that unlike 'regular' shows which make their money off the syndication of the show itself, the current trend in Anime is where the income derives primarily from merchandising. This is judged mainly from DVD sales.

The increase in loli content is because fans buy the DVDs and merchandise.

To give you an idea of how much more the 'loli fans' show their support, consider the DVD sales of Madoka Magica. The first DVD alone topped sales of Macross Frontier in 2008. (Macross Frontier was the 2008 chart topper, to see how big a difference [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] )


I do not think OP was talking about live action movie adaptations. (reference: space Battleship Yamato, Gantz and the upcoming Kenshin) More likely Gloomshade was referring to Anime Movies like Summer Wars, Ponyo or even movie serials like Break Blade.


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Default 07-13-2011, 01:41 PM

I just wish they would do something besides all that freaking loli crap, pretty much this entire year has been nothing but ridiculously over-censored garbage.

I mean they throw beams of light over swimsuits, that's just retarded, but they will keep doing it aslong as idiots keep shelling out for the "uncensored" dvd versions.
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Default 07-13-2011, 01:56 PM

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I just wish they would do something besides all that freaking loli crap, pretty much this entire year has been nothing but ridiculously over-censored garbage.
You can make the first step: don't watch it.

I mean they throw beams of light over swimsuits, that's just retarded, but they will keep doing it aslong as idiots keep shelling out for the "uncensored" dvd versions.[/QUOTE]

A bit dirty way to improve DVD selling and make the anime fitted for the law to airing. Idiots? Totally not.
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Originally Posted by Gloomshade View Post
It seems there are a number of loli related anime showing this season, moreso that in prior seasons, and I was wondering if it's due to the increased censoring on network television these days. Afterall, if an anime character has no breasts to begin with then there obviously isn't any need to censor them out. Ironically, the network's policy of censoring has just increased the number of adolescent girls showing up in anime which isn't an improvement by any means.

On another note, I would prefer to see more anime movies in the future instead of anime series that cut off abruptly after the first season. Hollywood is riddled with movies based on marvel comics that end up being fairly good movies, and I don't see why networks can't do the same with manga and anime. If the movie turns out to be a hit, the networks can always release subsequent movies to continue the storyline or follow up on new manga releases. The only problem I foresee with this approach is the need for talented story-writes to pace the plot and create a decent ending for the movie. Either the networks will have to hire the writers (yeah right), or manga artists will have to shift their focus towards a more focused style of drawing much like they would a book. This would create more one shot or short 20-30 chapter manga and fewer manga that just stretch on forever, month to month.
That darn Tokyo bill censors everything

I don't like the stuff that stretch out to much, it cost the quality of he story... Like the author of bleach, it's like he throwed away bleach and started from scratch( that is feeling that the storyline gives now).

The most good manga's have around the 5 to 20 volumes( some exceptions have up to 40) , not 50+
Also a comedy and adventure manga can be stretched, but an action not (this is suicide for the genre).
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Default 07-13-2011, 02:49 PM

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It seems there are a number of loli related anime showing this season, moreso that in prior seasons, and I was wondering if it's due to the increased censoring on network television these days. Afterall, if an anime character has no breasts to begin with then there obviously isn't any need to censor them out. Ironically, the network's policy of censoring has just increased the number of adolescent girls showing up in anime which isn't an improvement by any means.

On another note, I would prefer to see more anime movies in the future instead of anime series that cut off abruptly after the first season. Hollywood is riddled with movies based on marvel comics that end up being fairly good movies, and I don't see why networks can't do the same with manga and anime. If the movie turns out to be a hit, the networks can always release subsequent movies to continue the storyline or follow up on new manga releases. The only problem I foresee with this approach is the need for talented story-writes to pace the plot and create a decent ending for the movie. Either the networks will have to hire the writers (yeah right), or manga artists will have to shift their focus towards a more focused style of drawing much like they would a book. This would create more one shot or short 20-30 chapter manga and fewer manga that just stretch on forever, month to month.

Oh oh , explain this.
Do you want an Anime Movie? Or a real-life movie based on anime?


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Default 07-13-2011, 06:03 PM

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Oh oh , explain this.
Do you want an Anime Movie? Or a real-life movie based on anime?
I think they mean an anime movie like Paprika, Summer Wars, Rebuild of Evangelion, etc. I don't think it's a bad idea to make more anime movies. I've seen a lot of good anime movies recently (like Colorful, Bungaku Shoujo), but there doesn't seem to be more coming out (I haven't looked very close though).

On top of some new movies, I think they should also stop with the whole 11-12 episode season in the near future. I understand they do it in order to see if the series will sell, but even decently selling series that are good tend not to get second seasons, which leaves the story wide open with no conclusion at the end (which I hate). I wish they would make more 24-26 episode seasons so they can do more with the plot and character development. But that probably won't happen until the economy recovers more.
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Default 07-13-2011, 06:13 PM

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You can make the first step: don't watch it.

I mean they throw beams of light over swimsuits, that's just retarded, but they will keep doing it aslong as idiots keep shelling out for the "uncensored" dvd versions.

A bit dirty way to improve DVD selling and make the anime fitted for the law to airing. Idiots? Totally not.
It's against the law to show girls panties? I think not mate, as some shows do it and others don't.

Its 100% to make people buy the dvds.

And I'm not calling the creators idiots, they are just doing what they need to do to make a quick buck, they don't want to take risks because they know for certain that there will always be those idiots who buy the dvds.

Also i don't watch series like that anyway, they are terrible.

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Default 07-13-2011, 06:21 PM

My apologies for being tl;dr, but that's just how I roll...

I'm more worried about every anime plot nowadays relying on an unrealistic form of amnesia, often paired with a passing train which drowns out a crucial line of dialogue. The censorship that's just there to encourage disc sales is rather annoying, but can be avoided by waiting for the uncensored versions. It's only going to keep getting worse until either the broadcasts are nothing but a white screen with audio which will be mostly bleeped over, or the otaku finish bankrupting their parents. If this season's boobie showcase is any indication, we may have already reached the former.

Despite being pro-moe and militantly pro-ecchi, I must concede the current season is poor even by my standards. This is simply because its more serious offerings look pretty weak so far, and even folks like me need a balanced anime diet, although we are more omnivorous than most. However, not every season can be a good one, and depending on one's interests, sometimes many years can go by with little or nothing appealing to them. Such times are actually beneficial though, because they allow people to catch up on their backlog, make new discoveries, and savor old favorites.

I do wish anime fans would go back and watch a broader selection of older shows than they apparently have, or rewatch ones they don't seem to remember very well. Things like copious fanservice and young female characters have been anime staples for decades, though if you're only watching mecha and martial arts shows, it is possible to put quite a few series under your belt over many years without it becoming noticeable.

There are also at least a couple other factors to consider before judging current anime too harshly. For one, the popularity of Neon Genesis Evangelion placed some of the mature content of televised anime squarely in the sites of self-appointed moral guardians, causing even Cowboy Bebop some trouble on its way to broadcast later on. Things became relatively tame outside of OVAs for a while, but around the mid 2000's, the more risque trends began picking up right around where they left off.

To make matters appear even worse to many, this also overlaps this era in which nearly the entire raw output of the anime industry is widely available almost immediately, rather than just the fraction deemed most marketable in the West and then localized to make it even moreso. Far too many people dived headlong into the realm of fansubs and simulcast streams from things like the Adult Swim block, and have ended up with a rather warped perspective.

Finally, and most importantly, beware the fujoshi waiting in line right behind the lolicon and the moe otaku. The day will almost certainly come when nearly all the cute girls doing cute things become cute boys doing each other, so it would be wise to hold plenty of tears in reserve for that day, unless you're into that sort of thing.

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